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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 4:16 am    Post subject: new pads same rotors now brake judder in steering wheel Reply with quote

I put new Wagner ceramic pads on my 03 4 wheel dr pathfinder I didn't change the rotors they looked clean and they are the hard to take off captive type.. so now the steering wheel is shuddering a bit from say 50 down to 20 mph . I did clean off some ceramic black spots the size of a quarter off the rotors and it even got a little better but still has a long way to get real smooth like before I did the brake job do you think semi metallic pads would fix this?
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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

metallics are a little more forgiving in this situation. The rotors are an easy change though and not much $$. They aren't captive, probably just rusted on to the hub. A rubber mallet ought to do the trick.
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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 5:43 am    Post subject: hub and rotor view might help Reply with quote

disallow wrote:
metallics are a little more forgiving in this situation. The rotors are an easy change though and not much $$. They aren't captive, probably just rusted on to the hub. A rubber mallet ought to do the trick.



see link of rotor assembly

http://www.courtesyparts.com/images/r50/r50_400-3.gif


this my set up 4 wheel drive

http://www.courtesyparts.com/images/r50/r50_400-6.gif
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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so its bolted behind the hub assembly?
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rotors should be resurfaced or replaced any time pads are replaced. Nissan recommends using an on-car brake lathe. Pulsation has nothing to do with the type of pads, but with a warped rotor, or, as Nissan calls it, "rotor thickness variation."
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 8:32 pm    Post subject: brake judder Reply with quote

smj999smj wrote:
Rotors should be resurfaced or replaced any time pads are replaced. Nissan recommends using an on-car brake lathe. Pulsation has nothing to do with the type of pads, but with a warped rotor, or, as Nissan calls it, "rotor thickness variation."


thank you for your help . I would have wasted my money trying a semi metallic new pad. your right its the rotor , if I purchased a good name brand rotor that has been checked for run out would that help just to replace the rotor and new pads?
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the pads aren't that old, you can just replace the rotors. I've used Wagners and Raybestos Professional Series Advanced Technology rotors on Pathfinders and both have worked well. You may want to check with your local brake shops and/or Nissan dealer and see what it would cost to cut your rotors with an on-car brake lathe. The benefits are that it will be cut true to the knuckle and you won't have to have the hubs taken apart.
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

smj999smj wrote:
If the pads aren't that old, you can just replace the rotors. I've used Wagners and Raybestos Professional Series Advanced Technology rotors on Pathfinders and both have worked well. You may want to check with your local brake shops and/or Nissan dealer and see what it would cost to cut your rotors with an on-car brake lathe. The benefits are that it will be cut true to the knuckle and you won't have to have the hubs taken apart.


that would be perfect if its not to much $$ the problem now is I believe there isn't enough metal onto the rotors I have now for a recut so if I did get new rotors the hubs would have to betaken apart in which I wont tackle on a 4 wheel drive. without an air socket gun. however the next time after the new rotors I needed pads it would be just f great to do a brake lath .
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