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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:30 am    Post subject: 2013 Pathfinder Why did Nissan do this? Reply with quote

Not Much excitement for the new 2013 Pathfinder? I guess no more lift kits,Grille Guards,Mud Tires and 4 wheelin.Not a truck anymore.
http://wot.motortrend.com/2013-motor-trend-sport-utility-of-the-year-contender-nissan-pathfinder-273159.html?sc_cid=MSNSUVNSPF1012
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would suggest that the Pathfinder has always been 90% sold to people who never off-road, so it's off roading abilities was more a marketing angle than a technical necessity for the market segment.

However things have shifted, buyers are more concerned about MPG than ground clearance, plus the feds are pushing much higher MPG standards, so continuing things as they were before became a much harder proposition.

I *wish* they instead would put effort into bringing their Diesel motor over for better MPG, or even adding some Hybrid tech...

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RacerZX wrote:
I would suggest that the Pathfinder has always been 90% sold to people who never off-road, so it's off roading abilities was more a marketing angle than a technical necessity for the market segment.

However things have shifted, buyers are more concerned about MPG than ground clearance, plus the feds are pushing much higher MPG standards, so continuing things as they were before became a much harder proposition.

I *wish* they instead would put effort into bringing their Diesel motor over for better MPG, or even adding some Hybrid tech...

-c


where's the like button for this comment Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed with this. I feel the same way as borninabarn about the 2013 PF, but I haven't seen one in person yet, just photos/videos.

A hybrid R51 would have been a cool option.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gear1975 wrote:
Agreed with this. I feel the same way as borninabarn about the 2013 PF, but I haven't seen one in person yet, just photos/videos.

A hybrid R51 would have been a cool option.


Back when I bought my Durango in 2001 or 2002, the only reason I bought it (leased) was because they were developing a hybrid version. I figured I would wait a couple years, then turn in the V8 for the hybrid. They totally scrapped the idea, which was in my favor because the Durango was a POS. That's the last time I listen to mfrs.

Everyone has been super reluctant to release a hybrid here. Of the SUV hybrids available, none of them are supposed to go off road. I'm with Carl, they need to start releasing high mpg diesel models here.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hybrids are a waste of time. I actually work for a company that builds hybrid vehicles, and having seen the data on the following factors, would never consider buying one:

1. Life Cycle Cost of batteries. (including end user cost as well as the cost to the environment)
2. Fuel economy does not pay for premium.
3. Cold weather performance is abysmal. (Yes I live in Winnipeg)

That and the fact that the manufacturer of the hybrid unit for our vehicles actually states there is no real financial or environmental reason to actually buy one of these.

I'm with NVSteve and Carl, bring on a medium displacement I-4 or V6 diesel to the North American market that gets 30+ MPG. Kind of like what they are talking about for the 2014 Titan, as I posted in the link below:

http://www.thenissanpath.com/viewtopic.php?t=7831&highlight=
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least we still have the Frontier, hopefully Nissan doesn't Ridgeline it!!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone here vote for Obama and complaining about the new PF? Just curious Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyone here vote for Obama and complaining about the new PF? Just curious Wink


Yes and yes. It's all Nissan and the current market trends, however.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NVSteve wrote:
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Anyone here vote for Obama and complaining about the new PF? Just curious Wink


Yes and yes. It's all Nissan and the current market trends, however.


Of course the CAFE standards have nothing to do with it. Can't wait to see what we get to pick from in a few more years. A Prius for everyone! Indeed.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys can always buy an x
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yellowbug wrote:
You guys can always buy an x


Or a full size truck. CAFE doesn't require anywhere near the mpg as the Pathfinder. Makes sense huh? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skinny2 wrote:
NVSteve wrote:
skinny2 wrote:
Anyone here vote for Obama and complaining about the new PF? Just curious Wink


Yes and yes. It's all Nissan and the current market trends, however.


Of course the CAFE standards have nothing to do with it. Can't wait to see what we get to pick from in a few more years. A Prius for everyone! Indeed.


I'm not going to get into a political pissing match on this one. Yes, CAFE has an impact, but Nissan could easily have had a better redesign that would have kept at least some of the old Pathfinder prowess. All the interviews say the same thing: people want family-friendly crossover vehicles now. If you don't follow the market, you lose.

IF the Xterra ends up being redesigned, mpg will have to improve, but it will also have to remain true to the whole X concept of being the rugged, go anywhere vehicle of the younger crowd.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:38 pm    Post subject: lousy decision Reply with quote

I agree
this new pf is to low to the ground, so useless for off roading. The commercial is misleading. it's looks don't appeal to me either. and it's a front wheel/ 4 wheel drive.
Nissan decided to alienate us loyal pathy owners. And grab the suburban crowd that never take their vehicles off the pavement.
So that being said, my next choice will be the x-terra, providing Nissan doesn't screw that one up.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Xterra has taken the role of what was originally the Pathfinder's back in 1986. At least we still have one "real" SUV. That said, I'm sure someone will come along sooner or later with a suspension lift kit for the 2013 Pathfinder and throw some big tires on it, whether we want it or not! Wink Remember the R50 is a unibody, as well...
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