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This is why I liked my pathfinder so much. Not to be rude, but if you wanted all creature-comfort SUV type vehicle, why not buy a van or crossover?DanJetta wrote:I tend to be somewhat negative about my cars, so take my comment with a grain of salt.
I probably wouldn't buy my Pathfinder again for the main reason that it's more of a truck than an SUV. When you compare it to similar manufacturers, the Pathfinder is rough, unrefined, technologically lacking, not very thought out, lacking in the most basic of convenience features and the features it does have seem to have been thrown in as an afterthought (if you want specific examples, I can give you a thousand). It's fun to take off road or to use it for utility applications -- and I love that I'm never worried about beating it up or having it stolen -- but as an every day driver it's exhausting to drive. When someone new rides in it, the topic of conversation is always how rough it is and how uncomfortable the seats are (I have the leather seats, which have zero support).
As an example, many of the most basic convenience features in my 2001 P.O.S. VW were still not available in the 2012 top-of-the-line Pathfinders.
Also, something else to keep in mind, my Pathfinder started nickel-and-diming me around 75K miles, which, I hear, is about right.
I agree, the new Pathfinder is pretty embarrassing for Nissan.XiBowhunter wrote:
This is why I liked my pathfinder so much. Not to be rude, but if you wanted all creature-comfort SUV type vehicle, why not buy a van or crossover?
SUV's were made to be tough like trucks, That is why I DESPISE the way they changed the 2013 Pathfinder. It might as well have been an addition to their mini-van line-up.
grand cherokee is a unibody, pilot is also unibody. the fit and finish in jeeps that i have been in isnt that great, all cheap plastic unless you go for high end srt8. i like the fit and finish on my pathfinder. no issues with anything on it. it rides like i would expect a body on frame suv to ride like.DanJetta wrote:I agree, the new Pathfinder is pretty embarrassing for Nissan.XiBowhunter wrote:
This is why I liked my pathfinder so much. Not to be rude, but if you wanted all creature-comfort SUV type vehicle, why not buy a van or crossover?
SUV's were made to be tough like trucks, That is why I DESPISE the way they changed the 2013 Pathfinder. It might as well have been an addition to their mini-van line-up.
What I should have said is that the R51 Pathfinder is more like an old utility truck. While I'm certainly not expecting the fit and finish of a Mercedes, I do think it's reasonable to expect a similarity to other truck-framed SUVs in its class (Grand Cherokee, Pilot, Explorer, 4 Runner, etc.).
It's a vibe you get. When you sit in my buddy's Grand Cherokee, you think, "Wow, this is nice." When you sit in my Pathfinder, you feel like you're sitting in a utility vehicle. Again, not a bad thing -- just different. One good thing is that I've never been afraid of having my Pathfinder stolen.
Exactly why the first thing I did with mine was replace the springs and shocks. The only other times in my life where I've bottomed out in a vehicle was when it was grossly overloaded or the shocks were completely blown.DanJetta wrote:Whoops on the frame thing. I guess that explains the improvement in ride over the Pathfinder, which rides exactly like my old '74 Land Cruiser. The thing I can't figure out is why the Frontier rides so much nicer.
I've never driven a Frontier, but it does has an extra foot of wheelbase to work with. After spending yesterday driving around in a 2013 F-250 crew-cab long-bed....I thought the PF felt pretty damn marvelous when I hopped in for the ride home. I think my PF makes more noise over bumps than actually jarring you around.DanJetta wrote:Whoops on the frame thing. I guess that explains the improvement in ride over the Pathfinder, which rides exactly like my old '74 Land Cruiser. The thing I can't figure out is why the Frontier rides so much nicer.