Horrible gas mileage please advice needed?

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Horrible gas mileage please advice needed?

Postby novaman » Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:25 pm

Hey everyone well I just recently put the new tires on and finished the lift the tires are 285/75/17. With the 3 inch lift. So anyway it put my mileage to no better the 11mpg. Should it make that much of a difference? It's a 08 only 65000 miles and of course all current maintenance It also has a K&N intake.


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Postby Baedarlboo » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:09 pm

Over sized tires (more weight) = decrease in mpg
Lift will also effect mpg
Our trucks aren't that great on gas to begin with, so it doesn't help with the things you have done.

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Postby deermjd » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:24 pm

What mileage were you getting before the tires and lift were installed? Do you have the v6 or v8? How many times have you calculated your mileage with this lift and tires? I agree that your mileage will decrease with larger tires and lift but I think it should be better than that. Heck, my 20 year old Jeep has a 4" lift and 33's get's 15-16 mpg.

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Postby novaman » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:30 pm

Ya that's kinda what I'm thinking I know it will go down but I didn't expect that bad!!! It's the v6 an before It wasn't great but it was about 20 on the highway 15 town. Now it's 13 highway like 11 town at best.

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Postby Cooper993 » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:50 pm

Have you tried replacing the PCV? I'm having a similar issue and may spend the $15 to try if that makes a difference.

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Postby deermjd » Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:39 pm

Wow that's quite a drop in mpg. Well the colder weather will also have a negative effect on mileage. I've noticed a slight drop in mine over the past month.

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Postby skinny2 » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:26 pm

Have you adjusted your calc for the speedo/odo difference from stock? That's a huge swing there in tire size....somewhere north of 10% difference. That's probably 2mpg right there if you haven't adjusted for the odo.

Between the wider more aggressive tread (assuming), higher stance, and heavier tires...I would think 13-15mpg would be pretty reasonable. Highway is where you'll see the biggest change.

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Postby deermjd » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:48 pm

skinny2 wrote:Have you adjusted your calc for the speedo/odo difference from stock? That's a huge swing there in tire size....somewhere north of 10% difference. That's probably 2mpg right there if you haven't adjusted for the odo.
I'm putting my money on this.

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Postby novaman » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:50 pm

Hey thanks a lot guys for the input. Ok so give me the dumb down version lol I'm used to old muscle cars sorry. So how do I adjust all that?? Thanks

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Postby deermjd » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:58 am

It will require an electronic programmer to adjust the computer to compensate for the larger tires you now have. It's not like the older vehicles that you could change the size of the speedometer gear and be back in business.

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Postby skinny2 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:16 am

For now you can just add 10% to your mileage (and speedo) when calculating mpg. The trip computer won't be right either since it thinks you're driving less miles than reality. You may also be driving much faster than usual which will also burn more fuel.

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Postby CPLTECH » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:23 pm

You probably don’t remember this, but 30-40 yr ago the hot rod crowd wanted mag(nesium) rims that were lighter which made the tire assembly lighter than steel rims which made the 0-60 times quicker. Wide tires were needed for the extra traction. I had some big wide tires on a used S10 and that truck couldn’t roll down a hill. Finally put some standard width passenger tires on it and got fantastic MPG.
Also those 80# PSI “truck” tires affect MPG as well. So unless carrying heavy loads, think twice. Tall tires affect the final gear ratio the mfg determined best for that engine/truck setup. With gas now predicted to get to $5 a gal this summer, divide that by 11 = 45¢ per mile ! ! ! Some tires now have a “LRR” rating which rates the rolling resistance for those who are MPG concerned. I think this $3 gas has made us lazy.

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Postby CPLTECH » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:26 pm

One more thing to consider is that oversized tires change the final gear ratio which affects how soon the torq converter locks up or how easy it is to unlock due to the strain. There goes your MPG. Thus a smaller diameter tire is better suited for city stop-and-go driving or in the hilly parts of the country. If mostly hyway / flatland driving, a taller tire may be in order. For customer satisfaction, mfg used to tweak rear end ratios for the area of the country you lived.


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