Moderator: volvite
What SUV isn't low? If it was just right, then they'd complain that the PF was too tall of a vehicle. Can't win with them. I agree about the OME though-I was happy to be able to stand under my rear door without hitting my head, although I still stoop a bit out of habit.guinnessjim wrote:#4: that rear door was LOW near the truck when open (until i put i the OME on). i could see it getting a poor rating if one of the testers knocked their head on it.
Spot on.....NVSteve wrote:I have no faith in any of their vehicle testing, but some of their small product stuff is pretty good. But only when they test every bit of the competition, which they never do. Anyway, they had the following "Lows" rating for the current PF:
"Stiff ride, second- and third-row seats, turning circle, rear access, fuel economy."
My thoughts:
1. Stiff ride. Uh, which model PF did they test? From all the postings everywhere, "stiff" does not seem to fall into the OEM vocabulary. Are they, as usual, comparing everything to a car?
2. Second row isn't roomy, but I've had large adults in the back for up to 300 miles at a time and it's all right. 3rd row is a joke & only a marketing item.
3. I've never really cared. The streets where I live are gigantic. If I can't make a U turn in one motion, then I'll have to stop and back it up a bit & then complete the turn. I wonder how it really compares to other vehicles?
4. Rear access. Not sure what the con is with that. I love the pop up door. I love the rear hatch access even more when the back is full of crap. It isn't a side swing like the FJ or my old Trooper (both of which are fine in my book), so I'm wondering why the rated that low. Is it because the door doesn't fold up like an accordian?
5. Fuel economy. This annoys me to no end. The PF is classified as an evil SUV, and compared to other SUVs, it isn't bad at all. Compared to a car or wannabe crossover type vehicle, obviously MPG will look worse. It should go without saying that an SUV will, by definition, get poorer MPG than a car (at least most cars).
Feel free to voice your opinion, good or bad.
ughh!08Datsun wrote:I'm absolutely jumping for joy at the gas mileage, especially since 87 has recently jumped to $3.65 here.
Utah currently has the cheapest gas in the nation...for the moment. I take no stock in that because many months of the year see us as the most expensive in the nation. When everyone else has lower prices, everyone here is up in arms as to why ours is so damned expensive. The reasons that the oil companies give are ridiculous. The whole topic just makes me ill to begin with. If I notice I need to fill up, I stop at the next gas station and fill up. No price hunting. No driving all over the place to save $.02 per gallon. I honestly couldn't even tell you how much gas is, as I just don't pay attention to it. I know people who drive way out of their way just so they can buy the cheapest gas in town, yet those are the same people who drive little 4 bangers & spend more on gas each month than I do simply because they drive around far too much.00void wrote:regular is $2.89, premium $3.09 and diesel is $3.55 where i live.
I do alot of short commutes / city driving and trip off the VDC quite often.BMXPath wrote: I never average less than 18 mpg... and that is the average of everything.
I came from a 99 Chevy crew cab dually... I am amazed every single time I have a trailer hooked up about where I can turn this thing around... all my buudies just watch with dropped jaws when I get thing turned around in the shop parking lot...BMXPath wrote: I personally think the turning radius is fine. Especially compared to the long wheel base Chevy Silverado that I used to drive. That thing couldnt U-turn in a shopping center parking lot.